Goodstack Complaints Canada

General => Main => Topic started by: Jason Aune on February 09, 2025, 05:29:19 PM

Title: Google Workspace Nonprofits Guidelines: Discussion
Post by: Jason Aune on February 09, 2025, 05:29:19 PM
Discussion of Changes over the Years
If you haven't read or reviewed the Google Workspace Nonprofits Guidelines: Timeline feel free to do so here: link.
Otherwise the discussion of these changes are as follows.

In terms of the General Guidelines

In terms of the Canadian Guidelines

Bring on the Conflation
If you combine this dropping of the "or" with the requirements listed on Goodstack's website:
https://goodstack.org/nonprofit-definitions
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you get this conflation of the history of the program and these two sets of requirements. Until 2023 the spirit of the non-profits program was that you could receive access to the non-profits program by not operating for profit and after demonstrating that you were recognized by your local or national government in this role.

But now. You see this other aspect coming to the surface.
You must be benefiting the "public good". And like the Google requirements the indication here is that all of these sentences apply.

Now is the point here that Google and Goodstack have decided to reject certain types of non-profits? Is there a quota of accepted accounts per county? Does Goodstack, despite it's stated mission, have a mission to reduce the number of approvals?

Goodstack keeps this requirement deliberately vague so they can reject as they see fit. In a recent communication with Goodstack regarding a validation request their rep Ashely, provided this response"
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Bring on the Micro Requirements
So beneath the stated requirements are another set of micro-requirements that are brought up, available nowhere and are now applied with no reference or justification. So across Canada: all associations, foundations, trusts and co-operatives are all also rejected.

These sub rejections make absolutely no sense.
I am no lawyer or organizational expert but you can see easily that a trust would be ineligible by definition.

Next, it makes almost no sense to reject associations and foundations.

For foundations you simply need to look at this page to understand why:
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/charities-giving/charities/registering-charitable-qualified-donee-status/apply-become-registered-charity/establishing/types-registered-charities-designations.html

And for associations they only exist if their aims are not profit. Regardless an association still needs to be provincial or federal recognized to be eligible for for Google Workspace Non-profits. So by definition unincorporate associations would 'struggle to'/not get approved unless they formalized their group and had it recognized by either body.

Lastly, when it comes to cooperatives this broad rejection, really flys in the face of the definition of what a cooperative is in the many different jurisdictions in Canada. As far as I can tell Goodstack was so unhappy with Canadian co-operatives applying to the program that they posted this adjustment to their requirements page:
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which is the laziest, least helpful addition to the requirements in ten years. When I emailed this to them to point out that across their other country requirements there are plenty of situations where they accepted co-operatives
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they retracted this change saying: "Additionally, since our last email, we identified that including the sentence referencing excluded organizations made Canada an exception in explicitly mentioning them. We have since removed this sentence and will provide clarification when it's asked." —it no longer appears on their requirements page. The implication of this rebuttal couldn't be missed: they reserve the right to reject anyone with secret/hidden requirements.

In Conclusion
So instead of doing the work in Canada like Techsoup has done to know the difference between different types of organizations and make judgements based on jurisdiction and the specific case they haven't even gone to the trouble to learn the difference between a co-operative in British Columbia and one in Saskatchewan.

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Re-reading this sentence right now it's hard not to feel pretty frustrated. Not only does it conflate all the requirements but it expands adding extra secret requirements: must be able to offer donors a deduction and a non-profit organization serving it's members does not serve a charitable purpose.

As I stated above it's this "public good" notion creeping into the requirements and from the Goodstack perspective you can see the "must be charity with donors, etc" creeping in.

As I've pointed out above this notion of the public good and how this is definition is applied is about as arbitrary as it gets. How much good? How much public? What happens when it benefits certain groups over other groups? How do you make this call? And obviously, they are so many non-profit organizations that may be provincial non profits but not federal charities and may not have a mission to offer donors a deduction for charitable contributions: like if for instance they don't have donors.

QuoteIn just under two years Google has created many additional barriers to being accepted to this program even when the organization already has met the posted requirements of the program.
At the helm of these adjudications is an organization, Goodstack, that either has a mandate to increase rejections or is disinterested in learning how each special situation is different which doesn't bode well as they are the so-called international authority on charitable organizations. It seems to me that they are much more interested in being the "Stripe of charitable donations" and on venture capital and AI then on validating organizations contributing to the public good. https://tech.eu/2024/11/18/goodstack-secures-28m-from-general-catalyst/